First guitar build, first neck build. Standard Neck Pocket Depth. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. 75". I'm planning on ordering a 24. You've read the diagram correctly. Equal: Are there any guidelines or rules of thumb for "fretboard overhang"? Default for the FretFind tool is 0. The large file stays over the finish and doesn't damage it at all, but takes the fret ends down nicely. also, will i really need to make the bridge adjustment, considering warmoth uses fretboard overhang instead of extending the neck? Dec 27, 2007 #20. 070-. It felt just right all the way up to the end of the fretboard. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. Depending how the neck is constructed some part of the fretboard overhangs the body. 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . But, on necks with 22 or less frets, the neck PU is placed on the octave harmonic. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. Will this work on a standard p bass body. It has evidence of smoke damage, and repairs include: Neck reset (was set low on bass side), Replaced bridge plate, two spruce patches each on treble and bass side of X brace, 3 cleats to rear of sound hole, long rectangular patch underneath fretboard overhang, 5 repaired top cracks from bridge to back, two repaired top cracks on either side of. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…Having to remove the neck to get the scratchplate off is a bloody nuisance Why can't they just make the neck as long as the fretboard?B. . . For the math-impaired: 1. . Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. What this means is that for most OEM necks the bottom of the heel to underneath the fretboard is 3/4″ or . Tape the two pages together. My guard's tort, so it might be a little thicker than a clear one, but I could gig mine w/o screws in it for sure. It is fairly easy to do with the right tools. fretboard overhang at nut (distance from string to fretboard bounds) fretboard overhang at last fret; string gauges; string tensions; fretboard radius at nut (for compound radius fretboard radius at bridge is calculated with the stewmac. 175 mm). 2. I'm guessing that, the fretboard overhangs a bit? Here's a photo from a Stu-Mac kit. A pickguard is . If there is not gap, there is the potential that the very bottom of the fretboard will contact the pickguard and in some cases, that pressure can cause the fretboard at that position to "ski ramp" up and cause all kinds of issues with fret. I saw a few minor cosmetic flaws, like yellow paint sprayed on the edge of the fretboard overhang and what looked like buffed out file markings on the tail end of the fretboard. Strat Neck, Rosewood Fretboard 12 Inch Radius,Rollernut,22 Fret Overhang Fretboard. This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. Also, PRS in general is not. The type of truss rod installed would have an impact, but not where it's adjusted. Last edited: Feb 1, 2019. This was an extra $110 for the ebony and squared fretboard. Be careful to file the metal only, stopping just as the file comes in contact with the finish. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. Always tempted by their 15w amp, but I have a Blues Jr already. in my experience, the diff between heel or headstock adjustments is cosmetic/preference. Last edited: Feb 1, 2019. Saddle position of the e’ saddle should be set to allow travel in both directions for intonation. prorecordingworkshop wrote:. The Modern Player neck has no fretboard overhang, so the end of the pocket sits closer to the bridge. Stu Mac sells a fancy jig for this, but I just hold the file. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. 5" and the neck is made to fit a Fender guitar it should be fine, however. I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. 625" on the body, and standard Fender neck heel height is is . bettyseldest said: On the stock telecaster neck the 22nd fret sits on the fretboard overhang, so the neck sits in the same pocket as a 21 fret neck. The fretboard overhang on the neck will cover the gap that the neck leaves. #1. number of strings = 4. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. Finally, I never saw an aesthetically perfect finish below the fretboard overhang of a Gibson archtop. Seeing as it was a 34" scale fretboard, I decided to keep a little overhang, as the 21 fret is right at the end of the Gibson neck now. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. Either, but for 22 frets the neck has to have an overhang to make room for the last fret. My Warmoth pro neck fit just perfect. Only bodies and necks from. You should, however, keep in mind that if the fretboard overhangs its heel in this case, you’ll need to cut some space between the pickguard and the fretboard in order to get it to fit. if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. The string spacing is 74mm string-to-string at the bridge and 49. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance,. And I thought about providing a measurement from the end of the fretboard, but. Then I repeated this entire procedure near the bridge, since my strings are spaced at equal spaces at BOTH the nut and the bridge. Jan 7, 2021 #2 cfreddy813 TDPRI Member. . It's designed for those who are going without a pickguard and don't want a visible gap under the fretboard overhang. The pickguard certainly looks homemade. The Modern Player neck has no fretboard overhang, so the end of the pocket sits closer to the bridge. 0″ thick neck. Welcome to Crimson Guitars and welcome to Crimson Guitars. 83" at the first fret , . Display results as threadsFretboard Contour – This is the radial slope of the fret board. On the other hand, a newer Heritage Eagle Classic had more like 3/4". If a lot of wood has to go to make the scale length right, or to make a neat edge- saw the neck horizontally below the binding, creating a fretboard overhang. . The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. I. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tunersBusiness, Economics, and Finance. Does Michael Dolan do multi-scale? I'm not really interested in graphite, as I'm seeking the "traditional" sound and feel of a P or PJ. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. All the rods I use are hotrod truss rods from Stewmac. I use a flat iron and a towel to keep excess heat from the soundboard. To shim that would require a piece at the heel and it would be very visible. To maintain comfortable playability, it’s advisable to select a replacement neck with a fretboard radius that matches the original neck or is compatible with your playing style. Also, the heel looks long enough that if I cut. Neither seem to make much difference after a moment. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. 2) I moved the vibrato unit back to the Jazzmaster positionLook at the fretboard overhang. Likewise, the Saddles need to be closer to the nut for shorter scale. I just looked through a bunch of Epiphone Les Paul Special photos and that seems to be standard. 5mm. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. The fretboard overhang is the portion of the fretboard external of the strings: the measure from the external string to the edge of the fretboard. I am using fretfinder to design the fretboard. Pull the 22nd fret, cut off the fretboard end through the fret slot and see if you like it on your guitar. Fretboard Overhang: When replacing a 21-fret neck with a 22-fret neck, you may. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. Bare Knuckle Mississippi Queen P90 PickupsNecks come with heel adjust truss rods by default, such as the hex nut or spokewheel rod. 11-20-2010, 05:02 PM. This meant a complete redesign of the fretboard dimensions to allow for the proper Fretboard Overhang (distance. What I need help with is the nut and bridge measurements. Direct typing of inches or metric is a nice feature too, without having to switch between the two measurement systems globally. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. You will almost certainly need to cut the truss rod length down a bit, unless you can find one the right length. However, he is talking about putting a 21 fret neck where there was a 22 fret neck before, so there may not have been an overhang on it because the guitar was produced with a 22 fret neck, and would likely have the bridge placed accordingly. 5 scale, but shorter 24. A PRS Silver Sky has a full 22 fret neck where the neck shaft and fingerboard are flush with each other and no overhang. Then evaluate the saddles grooves so see if they need. Once that's done, I do the touchup with the same needle files that I mentioned above. Mark all of the frets with your black marker again. This body is routed for a G&L neck. There are four input modes for overhang. I gave this one 22. Trying my best to make something usable. Although the neck has its final shape, the fretboard is slightly overhanging. I've been to Warmoth's site. I, however, would much rather have you looking at my new development. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. Perfectly set up for those Jeff Beck style flutters. I didn't. Many times it’s necessary to change slightly the angle of a bolt-on neck in order to “bring the fretboard closer to the strings” (or lower the string hight). Fretboard to Neck Glue Up - PRS uses. To me this is significantly more comfortable because my fretting hand sits closer to the right side of the fretboard, meaning right in the middle instead of on the left. There's that little 1/8" nick outside of where the neck pocket should be. CryptoSeem cool, and I like the look. Fretboard edges and fret ends were professionally rolled so the edges are nice and smooth!Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. Standard 21 Fret. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 875” total length, 5” radius heel curve)I would cut the underside of the fretboard overhang. Buy On Amazon. I can't tell if the new neck is the "overhang" type where the fretboard overhangs the end of the heel, that would explain the difference. 09375 inches, but for all I know that's only appropriate for guitar. Price From $242. On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. On the Tele body, a standard Stratocaster neck is sufficient. I used a dremel to widen the arc. Their only non-22 fret guitars are the new Jazzmaster-styled. When your frets span multiple pages, you will need to tape them together before you cut the slots. . By far the most common pickguard thicknesses are either . What you might be talking about is how the fret edge is rounded, or the beveled edge, it. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. Super low action and plays perfectly with 10-46 gauge strings. New posts New media New media comments New resources New profile posts Latest activity. Used – Excellent. 5" scale guitars, but find that 24. On 24 fret necks it has to be moved back toward the bridge some (taking it off. My plan is to use a 25. Messages 24,425. My 2¢. Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Lonestar Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang (Note: 21 fret version is compatible with Warmoth parts) Fat Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang; Nashville Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). Photo 4. As a result, the fretboard will slightly overhang the sides of the neck heel in the upper fret areas. Lots of different heel dimensions, fretboard overhang and fret count will affect the intonation since your bridge mounts are predrilled. I used a dremel to widen the arc. May 25, 2018 #14. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. How about supplying some references to support this premise. The fretboard overhang sits above the body, but the gap is only . 09375 inches, but for all I know that's only appropriate for guitar. I did not realize the fretboard overhang prevents installing/removing an assembled pickguard unless the neck is substantially loosened. It's an aftermarket pearloid w/b/w pickguard and a maple/ebony standard thin neck on a USA Fender body. 720 Mod. First of all, a good clean and polish. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. New Orleans, LA. You may have to do this a number of times. iamlowsound. It’s not easy and cheap, but it can be done with a starting price of $300. 6mm, hench my overhang clearing it, but not by much So all as per ave. 5" and the neck is made to fit a Fender guitar it should be fine, however. 5" scale. You could also have a bit of fretboard overhang to hide the repair you will do. . The neck pocket shapes are different and one will not fit or intonate with the other. Even. Good to know. New media New comments Search media. Tape the two pages together. Feb 1, 2019 #5. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. When installing a neck with a fretboard overhang it is critical to ensure the overhang has enough clearance to accommodate your pickguard. 6" and not 24. . 015 of fall-away at the last fret when comparing to the fret at the body joint. With the overhang and the pickguard, it will be invisible. Remember me Not recommended on shared computers. A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. So even though I haven't drilled holes yet, this implies my bridge position is set by the template. I'm new to this forum, so you'll have to bear with me if this topic has already been covered (and it probably has). New posts Search forums. 070”, 0. It has a Fender neck and they worked out fine. Screw holes lined up pretty well. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. 0″ deep neck pocket, the top of the fretboard would be flush with the top of the guitar. Please check the Warmoth website to ensure this neck will for your neck pocket. 2008 affinity Pw29 bridge Fender locking tuners Wilkinson singles Aftermarket bridge unknown brand 19k hot Roller trees Skinny affinity body narrow nut chicken headstock 08 fartcaster hss black headstock Skinny affinity. However, he is talking about putting a 21 fret neck where there was a 22 fret neck before, so there may not have been an overhang on it because the guitar was produced with a 22 fret neck, and would likely have the bridge placed accordingly. The fretboard I got from Stew Mac and I have a second board in house so redoing it with a new, flat board is no problem. If it is a Tele just put it where the 22nd fret would go in a strat. Seems like the MIM (and MIJ) necks don't, but the MIA's do. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. If you are doing anything but a traditional neck pup check your fretboard for clearance when you determine how much past the neck it can be. Do I: a) Shim the neck somehow b) File away the pickguard under the overhang (no idea the best way to do this) c) File. More Info. 13. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. 5mm pickgaurd is standard 3 ply at around 2. I know the neck pockets are the same size, by the Warmoth P neck is 21 frets. STEP TWO: Cigar Box Guitar Neck-build Details: Use hardwood. Finally did some measuring last night and discovered that the neck pocket in the body is the correct depth (5/8"), but the distance between the FB. I sourced various components from ebay, including a. Been looking to switch out the old Rosewood neck on my 2001 MiM standard Strat and this neck would do the trick nicely. 10. Eyeball the neck to check for warping. A normal Jazzmaster his rounded, like a Strat's. I ran into a snag with the control plate. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were. Mar 22, 2013 286 Alabama. 1. I got some router bite on this fretboard. bbarott Most Honored Senior Member. I got 4 bolt on guitars and on 3 of them the fretboard overhangs just like yours. ElliottStrong Supporting Member. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter number of frets to calculate: This page should allow a person to quickly and accurately calculate the information needed to design the fretboard of a stringed instrument. Handy that the guard screws come out. The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard drawn, or simple press ENTER to default to the Origin. Paddle Guitar Neck 24fret 30inch Rosewood Fretboard Long Scale. Mildew Jones. Apr 20, 2005 #5. Even changing only the fretboard on your guitar neck is possible. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. Rosewood has a warmer, darker tone. Frets: 21 Stainless Steel with a fretboard overhang. 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . $69. There are a few Squiers and Fenders that have 22 frets without the. This is my first real project, I made an early RG type body (non-AANJ), modeled after my RG750. My question conerns the position of the pickguard. File the frets back. Would make a great main guitar, backup or mod platform. Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. If you took a Tele neck and glued a piece of fretboard to the end with an additional fret on it, it wouldn't change the relationship between the nut, the 12th fret and the bridge. 5 scale. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. On the state of the Art, it may be ( and sort of looks like) someone may have just shaved that extra 1/4. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. Business, Economics, and Finance. While a Gibson Les Paul will generally set you back north of $2,000, their Asia-built Epiphone cousins offer excellent bang for the buck at prices in the low-to-mid hundreds. 2-1/4" (squared) heel, 3/16" fretboard overhang, 1" from heel bottom to fretboard. The neck fits in the pocket the same way and the nut is the same distance from the bridge. 53mm at the 22 fret, it simply wouldn't fit in the neck socket without some trimming. As to overhang, I usually cut the slots as far as the strings, so the fretboard overhang is the non-cut portion. Alright then, well I'm drawing up plans for my 1st build, an RR, and I can't seem to figure out how much space there should be. The 550 has a much larger contact area at the neck to body joint, even more so than the originals because there's no fretboard overhang -- it's built like the AANJ neck -- solid right to the end. fretboard overhang = 3 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. 0″ deep neck pocket, the top of the fretboard would be flush with the top of the guitar. Then practice *edit: I forgot you had that Peavey. On a Dlx 5 string, the 24th fret is alot easier to reach. Most true-to-Strat-style bodies will be built for a 21-fret (no fretboard overhang) or 22-fret (with a 1-fret fretboard overhang) neck: this means, crucially, the bridge is positioned in relation to the neck pocket to accommodate and intonate with the assumption of a 21- or 22-fret neck. This Modele 10 from Jacques Favino is a standout piece in the gypsy-jazz guitar realm. . Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). It is the same at both high and low E. Resources. Special upgrades include a Badass II bridge, Greasebucket master tone, graphite-reinforced neck, and a '70s headstock logo. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstoc. I've been building the DM-1F and I'm concerned the gap between the over hang of the fretboard at the neck joint and the body of the guitar is too large. Builder: Valenti Basses. the only minor niggle that I found was that there is a slight fretboard overhang which. 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . The fretboard overhang must rest above the body so the pickgaurd can fit underneath it. Rounded heel design with fretboard overhang so it will fit on either a. NO overhang 4. They simply move the bridge position on the body. Alright then, well I'm drawing up plans for my 1st build, an RR, and I can't seem to figure out how much space there should be. Only bodies and necks from. #4. However, some did have neck-break angle issues and the gap under the end of the fretboard overhang was never a constant. Plus we will add a heel and drill and tap it to accept a threaded rod that will be tightened against the heel trapping the front side of the box and continue through and ou the back to create a truss that will counteract string. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. John Eppstein wrote: trock. The device I have allows for the complete fretboard/neck area to be heated. Only minimal adjustment is needed as in any neck change. 5" necks have a 1/4" 22 fret overhang (right?) but the 24. There are also numerous distinctions between the guitars, including their scale length, pocket depth, and neck width. The screws are going right through the body, flush with the backplate and bottom. . Hi. It didn’t take much to fix it. Based on the unequal fretboard overhang, it looks like moving the bridge would fix the overhang and the pup alignment. I'm not sure what is typical for Reverend guitars, but I don't think it is "abnormal" or something to be concerned about. The Warmoth neck on my Frankenstein J Bass has an overhanging fingerboard providing an extra fret. Last edited: Aug 8, 2020. After playing Fender Strats for many years I bought my first Warmoth Strat build and ordered the "standard" 22 fret pro neck. If the neck has a fretboard overhang it will cover the gap. Learn More. My 2004 50th anniversary strat has a gap between the end of the neck abs the pick guard. Before I order the neck and end up with a headache in the shop trying to make this work, is this a possibility?I've done this exactly once, Les Paul Custom just like you. So, we have a 1. Should I just cut that 0,5mm excess? The. Somewhere, Wonderful. My Warmoth J pickguard is held in place just by the fretboard overhang, the control plate and the neck PU. It would have a Fender style neck pocket, probably with a fretboard overhang. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. NO overhang 4. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. Compatibility Issues. Hey folks, new guy here. Most basses have a rosewood fingerboard or a maple fingerboard. 09375. Not ordered thou, but i bet if y give exact dimensions they can point you in right direction. Joined Sep 19, 2016 Messages 627 Reaction score 538. 75” nut width. The gap between the neck and body might be a little weird, but if the four screw holes match up, you’re probably fine. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. 25. If you change the scale length with a longer neck, intonation will not be correct. The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair: Good fretboard overhang?Are you talking about the gap under the fretboard overhang? It’s where the pickguard (that you don’t have here) goes. I have had a Tommy era never mounted all maple USAG Strat neck laying around for years so it's at the luthier for a closeish Tele headstock reshape and stainless refret for a parts build. Jun 20, 2008. Business, Economics, and Finance. All kinds of materials are used for this. It’s not something everyone can do, like changing pickups or electronics, but a skilled luthier shouldn’t have a problem replacing let’s say a rosewood fingerboard from your Gibson Les Paul guitar. It has 21 frets, but it looks to be all in the fretboard overhang and might fit on a 20-fret body. Standard Neck Pocket Depth. 5 - 27" scale with a fretboard overhang of . Hey folks, got a chance to land a nice deal on a 2019 MiM players Strat Pao Ferro neck. But every picture I can find online shows that there should be more than a couple centimetres of wood after the truss rod. #4.